John Warren History

JOHN WARREN

Born 1827 Devonshire – Died September, 1897 aged 71 years at Havelock North at the age of 44 years.
Arrived Napier 25/12/1873 aboard s.s. “Jessie Readman”.

Accompanied by his wife Johanna Warren born 1838 in Ireland. Died 29/6/1906 in Havelock North

and
Seven sons –

(1) Edward John   15 yrs   born 1863   died 1926
Married
Mary Ward   born 1865 Cornwall – died 1951 Hastings aged 86 years.

The children were:
Ethel 1885-1963   (John Warren)
Edith 1888-1975   Mervyn Tong, Valda Colwill
Catherine 1890-1984   Betty Gallagher, Audrey Baillie, Laurie McCarthy, James (Jim) McCarthy

Married: George Tong    R.V. McCarthy

(2) William   14 years
(3) Charles   8 yrs
(4) Albert   7 years
(5) George   4 years
(6) Henry   3 years
(7) Robert   11 months

also three Daughters born in New Zealand:

(1) Margaret Ellen (Nellie)   married McKeesick
(2) Mary   married Colbert
(3) Elizabeth (Lizzie)   married Greenwood/Willan
and
(4) Arthur (father of Jack Warren).

After spending about four days in transit accommodation at Napier Barracks they departed on 5/1/1874 possibly to Havelock North. Edward John’s wife (Minnie)(Mary) born 1865 came to New Zealand from Cornwall with her two sisters, one Edith Ward was married to John Pearce Smith who then had a daughter (Francis) (Fanny). They emigrated in 1879 to Hawke’s Bay. J.P. Smith was a publican at Clive 1886-1896. Records show Minnie was born 1865 so she was only 14

when she emigrated. She married Edward John Warren and their first child was born 1885, so J.P. Smith and E.J. Warren met before J.P. Smith went to Clive.

Edward John Warren would have then been (1884) only 22 years old. Cassie Warren can remember being in hotels at Havelock North, Clive, Albert, Taradale, (could remember being upstairs in the hotel at Clive 1897 at the time of the Waitangi flood). This leads us to believe he must have taken over at Clive from J.P. Smith who went possibly to the Empire in Napier, thence to the Union at the Port. While J. P. Smith was at the Union he apparently wanted to start a wholesale business, and it was arranged for E.J. Warren to take over the Union Hotel from J.P. Smith and then supply a license for them to operate as Warren Smith & Co. This left J.P. Smith free to run the Company and E.J. Warren was a silent partner. While E.J. Warren was publican at the Union his two younger daughters (and possibly Ethel) were boarders at the Sacred Heart Convent in Napier, so all this must have happened early in the century. He was well away from there when Cassie Warren was married in 1915, aged 24 in Hastings where they were living privately. (Had been for several years).

(Information gleaned from J .P. Smith’s records).

Edith Ward was born in Phillack, Cornwall on July 16, 1854, the daughter of Richard and Mary Anne Rutter. Her grandparents were Samuel and Mary Ching or Chinn, married 1815 and her great grandparents were John and Marjory Johns, married 1765 in Phillick [Phillack]. She had two brothers Richard and Alfred and one?? sister Jenny Glenvill who married Thomas Hogg in New Zealand 1886. What about Minnie? who by that time was married to E.J. Warren and had a daughter.

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  • Edward John Warren
  • Johanna Warren
  • John Warren
  • Mary Warren, nee Ward

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